Are All Abortions Pre-planned in Spirit Before Birth?
This post is inspired by questions from a reader who goes by the name Mangojuice13, who previously asked questions about her abortion. Mangojuice13 points out in her current comment that in several of our posts The Council has said abortions are always pre-planned, but in a previous post answering Mangojuice13’s questions we wrote that all abortions aren’t pre-planned, and she asks us to explain this apparent discrepancy.
In our session to answer Mangojuice’s current questions The Council says when a woman becomes pregnant this is pre-planned and there are basically three options concerning abortion and it’s pre-planning in spirit. The first option is the desire to experience an abortion in this lifetime and The Council says this is definitely pre-planned in spirit. The second option is the desire to have the baby, in which case this is also pre-planned. The third option is to become pregnant, but to pre-plan the option to abort the child or have the child. In this case there is an agreement in spirit by all parties concerned to wait and see what the circumstances are at the time of the pregnancy and to make the decision at that time.
Mangojuice13 asks The Council if the soul of the child she aborted will return to her in a future pregnancy or will it be a different soul? And The Council says what they see is this soul moving on, and if there’s another pregnancy it will be a different soul.
Mangojuice13 asks The Council what the soul she aborted is currently doing. And The Council says going to school, planning another lifetime, and helping others in our lifetime. They say there are many things going on at one time for spirits in the spirit world.
Mangojuice13 asks The Council if her aborted child was going to be a male or a female? And The Council says there wasn’t a decision made by this soul regarding it’s gender. When Bob expressed confusion about this The Council said in this particular case the soul did not have plans to be borne and didn’t make the decision whether it would be a male or a female. They said usually the decision is made by three months into the pregnancy, but they have seen circumstances where this isn’t the case and they say it’s up to the soul that’s being born.
Lastly Mangojuice13 asks The Council how many children they see her having in this lifetime. And The Council says at this particular time they see one child, but they add that it’s possible for Mangojuice13, depending on her desire, to recreate this and have less or more children. Bob asks if there’s a preference for a male or female child and The Council says it seems like there’s a preference for a male at this time.
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Thank you for the recap, Gina. It’s very helpful. We’ll answer your questions as soon as we can and we’ll post an audio recording of The Council’s response as soon as it’s ready. Love and light, Bob & Cynthia
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So to sum up I would like to know the following:
1. I would like You to ask The Council what they meant by the sex of the child is able to be determined after conception.
2. What is the soul of the fetus I aborted doing the moment and whether it will come back as my future child or in a different form? Or maybe it already incarnated?
3. Was my abortion pre-planned? If it was, was the purpose of this experience?
4. Was the fetus a female or male (biologically) so were it’s genitals feminine or masculine? Sorry if I can’t express myself clearly enough. English is not my first language.
5. What am I suppose to do to stop suffering? I never thought it would hurt me so much. I am scared I will never stop suffering and having this sense of guilt.
What can I do to feel better ? I really miss this baby so much and can’t enjoy my life:(
Thank you very much!
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I understand. Thank you.
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Hi, Gina. Sorry we haven’t gotten to your question yet. Please be patient. Thanks.
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Hallo Bob and Cynthia,
Just wanted to kindly remind you of my questions in case you forgot? It’s been already some time since we last “spoke” to each other. I am thinking about it every day and going through lots of suffering. I hope to hear from you soon. Kind regards, Gina
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Thank you!
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No problem, Gina. We’ll ask The Council your questions about the sex of the child at birth and the pre-planning of your abortion when we have time and we’ll post an audio recording of their response as soon as it’s ready. Thanks for your questions. Love and light, Bob & Cynthia
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Hallo Bob & Cynthia,
I realized I got carried away. My message was too emotional and I am sorry about that. It does not change the fact though that the sex is determined at the conception and it can’t change so yes I am very curious what The Council has to say about that. I would like you to inquire about it. Thank you.
Also, if I may ask… Could you please ask the Council what it was like in my case? I mean… was my abortion pre-planned? Was this an agreement between me and the other soul (or did we agree we would wait and decide at the moment I will pregnant)? I would also like to know where this soul is at the moment and whether it will come back. Thank you!
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You make a good point, Gina. Would you like us to ask The Council what they meant by the sex of the child is able to be determined after conception?
We’re sorry you feel our blog has lost all credibility by publishing false information about the gender of the baby. Love and light, Bob & Cynthia
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What? The sex of the baby is determined at the moment of conception!!! Biological sex is largely determined by chromosomes, and is—normally—determined at conception. It cannot change. If the father contributes an X chromosome, the baby/person will be a female. If the father contributes a Y chromosome the baby/person will be a male.
Hormonal changes (amounts, timing, and actual hormones) in utero can affect the outward appearance and development of sex characteristics—but the chromosomes will always remain in each cell. Sometimes there are exceptions to this, and this category of exceptions are called “Intersex.”
Such a shame You lost all your credibility by saying this false information about the gender of the baby….please study a bit biology.
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Can you please shed some light on prior relationships&roles I believe I have shared with my mother in previous/future lives?
I have always had a very tumultuous, hit&miss relationship/connection with my mother regarding her seemingly lack of emotional/mental capacity to have raised me (first born & daughter), yet having then had endless nurturing abilities for raising my 4-years-younger brother, who required special needs of his own. I don’t know if it’s important to note, but she had to fight modern-medicine to be able to get pregnant with me (I feel as if her body didn’t want to conceive me: numerous fibroid-tumors that required then-state-of-the-art-surgery to be removed so I could attach to her uterus, gestational diabetes, and an ABO-intolerance where her body was trying to reject me… none of which occurred with my brother’s following pregnancy 4 years later that ran perfectly). It may be interesting to note that two years after his birth she conceived again, unexpectedly; however in that case she chose to abort and then had a hysterectomy to prevent further pregnancies.
Mom has always proclaimed that when she saw me for the first time it was the most surreal experience of “already knowing EXACTLY what I was going to look like,” and, more quietly admitting, not feeling ANY of that sensation at my broher’s birth.
But once he was born, all of her nurturing and attention was devoted to him, and at the age of 4.5 I entered into more of a “friend” or “sister” relationship with her; not having any rules or boundaries or support, having to make my own meals by the time I was six, and having no ground rules that a child should be protected by. She checked out and treated me like a pre-pubescent adult (even through molleststion at eight and exhibiting signs of Bilolar disorder as early as ten — there was zero emotional investment).
I was just curious as to why nature seemed to not want her to bare children, and having had to work so hard to create me, why she seemingly abandoned me for my brother’s well-being and still over-mothers him to this day (she has been mutually devoted in her currently-46-year-marriage to my father, and although he always lived with us, he spent all of his time at work leaving us with an “absent-father-connection” beyond his financial diligence to our upbringing: he brought home the bacon, but the child-rearing was strictly on my mother’s shoulders).
My mother and I are very connected in a deep way, and she is in a sense my best friend, but her role as a mother TO ME ended when my brother then-easily came down the chutes.
Can you please shed some light on why I had such a hard start and with no support even battling trauma and to-this-day mental illness, whether this life was possibly my FIRST experience in this plane (a previous therapist told me I was like a raw-nerve, too sensitive for the harshness of this world, as If it were my first time), what were any pequiliarities or specifics of the pre-birth-contract within this life’s mother-daughter relationship we share, and what previous roles we played for each other in previous lives?
It has just never felt like I was comfortable being her child or her comfortable being my mother; that it was unnatural, even though we recognized each other; especially in contrast to how she so passionately babied/ies my brother with the delicate touch that I needed with my own sensitivities.
This will greatly help to heal SO MANY holes in my upbringing and stunted/delayed maturity that I’ve struggled with for now 33 years.
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Hi Mangojuice13. Are you feeling better? I’m still having a hard time.
-Andrea
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Hi, Trying to Learn. We’re glad to hear you enjoy our blog and have read most of our posts. We’ll ask The Council your questions about their spiritual perspective on the abortion clinic staff and the other questions you asked, and post their response when it’s ready. Interesting questions. Thanks. Bob & Cynthia
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Hi, Andrea. When we have a chance we’ll ask The Council for clarification on your abortion and post their response. Take care. Bob & Cynthia
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Hi Bob and Cynthia,
I am looking for some clarification regarding my own abortion. There is a long story to it as with all life decisions. We are in the process of recovering still. The abortion was two weeks ago. My husband and I made the decision together but I am just having some troubles internalizing peace. I understand much of what you have already said on the subject, I was just wondering if there was some clarification you could give me.
I have two young children already and my mother lives with us and she has mediocre health. Throughout both of my pregnancies and following I had pretty severe depression and I was worried it would come back. Now I am feeling depressed and unsure. My husband and I didn’t believe we were ready to take on another baby at the time. We are in the process of birth control but I don’t want to make a permanent decision because of the future idea of having a child when we are in a better place.
Thank you for all that you do.
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Hello Bob and Cynthia and The Council, I’ve enjoyed your blog for awhile now and I thank you for the work you do.
I’ve read almost all of your posts and noticed that many of these regard abortion. So I have a few questions.
What is the spiritual role of the abortion doctor and abortion clinic staff? It seems that many women are in great pain from the decision to abort (I’m guessing that many are not as well.) For women who regret their abortions, is this regret something that effects the abortion doctor/staff negatively?
What is the role of the protesters who picket outside of abortion clinics?
In countries such as El Salvador, abortion is illegal. I can only assume that some “back-alley” abortions are performed in these countries. Can The Council shed some light on this from a spiritual perspective?
If abortions were made illegal everywhere, what would happen?
Sorry, I know there are many questions here. Thank you for your wisdom.
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Hi Bob and Cynthia and The Council, I it’s Andrea again. I recently had a private reading with you which I really want to thank you for. In the reading, I was told that my abortion last summer was preplanned before my birth and that the spirit of the child was waiting to return. I also suffered a miscarriage. The Council said that the abortion was related to a past life where I died in an orphanage fire. I am struggling to understand the relationship between these events. I would think that I would want to have a child in this life and care for it rather than abort it. Especially since I initially wanted this child and the abortion was the result of distress. Why couldn’t I take care of myself and get what I needed during my pregnancy? Why did I fall apart and how does it relate to my past lives?
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Thank you so much for answering all my questions and I hope it was useful for others too. Mangojuice13
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Hi, Tracy. We’ll ask The Council about the pre-planning of miscarriages and under what circumstances you can have another child. Love Bob & Cynthia
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Thank you for sharing this information. Can I please ask if this is also true for miscarriages [are they pre-planned]. I have had three miscarriages after having my first child yet I deeply want another healthy baby. Are there spiritual lessons we need to learn or am I only meant to have one baby in this lifetime? Love & Light. Tracey xx
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