Why Do People Believe in Divine Retribution for Abortion?
This post answers a question from a reader named, Pakt, in response to a post we published titled, Life Feels Over After An Abortion. Pakt asks why so many people believe there will be divine retribution if you have an abortion when The Council says there isn’t any divine retribution and you won’t be struck down by God.
The Council starts by saying God or whatever you believe in has granted you free will and you will never be punished for what you choose to create in your life. Everything is allowed. You learn from everything you do, either during your current lifetime or when you return to spirit. In spirit you’ll review this life and learn what you’ve gone through, how you handled it, and the lesson is always learned.
The Council says you believe in divine retribution because from almost the beginning of time, man was afraid of this all powerful God, and if you didn’t please this God you’d have to pay. The priests and people in authority made rules that when you don’t follow the law, you’ll suffer. Man made these rules, including the rule that God gave you life and if you ended that life, God would punish you. But The Council says this isn’t the way things are; it’s only the way man believed it would be.
The Council says there is a contract between two or more souls to have a child or to abort the child. This contract allows you, according to what you want to learn, to have the child or abort the child. When you learn there is a gentler God who is only love and not some monster that will punish you if you don’t follow his laws, you’re free to make choices. When you learn you are spirit, when you learn God is love, when you learn everything is allowed, then you’re closer to who you truly are as a spiritual being in a physical body.
The Council says what you believe will show up in your life. If you believe you’ve done something horrible, you’ll find ways to punish yourself. There isn’t any God that will punish you for what you’ve done. You believe God will punish you because you’ve been taught this in other lifetimes and your current lifetime, and you’ll believe this until you find the truth that works for you.
Listen to the entire audio recording of our session with The Council (below) to hear all their guidance for Pakt and the rest of us, and let us know what you feel about it.
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Did I Know My Friend in Other Lifetimes?
This post is inspired by an anonymous reader who met someone they became friendly with and although the relationship was short-lived, this person made an impression in Anonymous’s life. They ask The Council to confirm their suspicion that they knew each other in other lives and if this is true, what was their relationship in these lives. Anonymous is also interested in whether they will reconnect with this person in this lifetime.
On a separate note Anonymous asks whether they were ever interested in herbs and healing in other lifetimes because they are drawn to this in their current lifetime and it feels familiar.
The Council says in the current lifetime it is the remembering of shared other lives that has brought you together for a short time like ships passing in the night.
The Council says in other lives you’ve been sisters, mother and child, a married couple, and peers who worked together, and they say to enjoy this familiar feeling you’ve identified with.
The Council says there’s a possibility you will reconnect with this person in the remainder of this lifetime as long as your life choices bring you in this direction.
The Council say Anonymous has dealt with herbs, oils, and mostly crystals in other lifetimes and they suggest Anonymous familiarize themselves with this. The Council also suggests Anonymous begin to meditate if they don’t already. This will connect them to a peacefulness and help them with the direction they want this lifetime to go in.
Listen to this brief 3-minute session with The Council on these questions to hear all of their guidance for Anonymous and the rest of us, and let us know what you think.
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Was Abortion Part of My Soul’s and My Unborn Child’s Soul Plans?
Ask The Council audio recordings
A couple years ago we experimented with including audio recordings of Ask The Council sessions in a few of our posts. With this post we continue to make these recordings available to readers in the hope they’ll shed additional light on The Council’s teachings.
Beth’s question about abortion
In June 2013 we published a post to answer a question for The Council from a reader named Beth about the subject of abortion (Abortion, Loss, Reincarnation, Life, Love, Expansion – Beth’s Story: A Spiritual Perspective). Interestingly, but maybe not surprisingly, this post has received many more views from readers than almost every other post except our Welcome post, and it has received almost three times the number of comments of our next most commented post (also excluding our Welcome post).
Emmy’s question
One of those comments is from a reader named Emmy who says:
“I think this post is great in helping understand [abortion], as it can be overwhelming at times. I had an abortion in 2012 and I still think about it every day. And I want to ask The Council if the spirit will come back to me in the future, and was it part of our soul plans?“
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We feel the spirit will come back
The Council begins by posing a couple clarifying questions for Emmy before offering their answer:
“You want to know if the soul will come back in your future, in this particular life?… in another life in what you consider the future?… will it return?
“Yes, we feel it will, in other realities – in what you would consider future lifetimes. There is never a loss or an ending when you are together with spirits who have come to help you.”
“This spirit may choose not to come in as her child. We see they will choose to be together, probably many more times, but in different roles.”
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When a Loved One Unexpectedly Departs Physical Reality
This post is inspired by a request from Kali, who writes that her partner (father of her two young sons) didn’t physically survive a car crash a couple months ago. She adds that she can’t accept he’s gone, her pain is unbearable, she’s desperately trying to develop herself spiritually so she can connect with the love of her life, and she’d appreciate any guidance The Council can offer.
Do You Believe You are Spirit in a Physical Body?
On November 11, 2013 we did a session with The Council to see if we could get the guidance Kali requested. The Council began this session with the following comments:
“Well first we want to say he [Kali’s partner] hasn’t gone anywhere, he is just out of his physical body.
“You are stating you are desperate and trying to develop spiritually, so first we ask you to meditate on this question: Do you believe you are a spirit here, operating in this physical body? Because that is who you truly are.
“And spirit – which is light and energy – never dies; we transition. We choose to create physical bodies to come into this environment and when we are done, we leave the physical body. But there is no dying; there is no end to spirit. Is that understood?”
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Abortion, Loss, Reincarnation, Life, Love, Expansion – Beth’s Story: A Spiritual Perspective
This post describes a session with The Council in response to the comment and questions below from Beth on the subject of abortion. The session is full of thought-provoking ideas on lots of different subjects of interest to many people in addition to Beth. Particularly interesting to us is light that The Council sheds on how our spirit’s intentions often manifest in surprising and unexpected ways in our human experience.
Ordinarily we like to offer a sort of running commentary in these posts if we feel it can add some clarity to something The Council says during a session, but it seemed to make this post too long and wordy. It also seemed to place more emphasis on understanding what The Council is saying rather than on appreciating the feeling of the energy offered by The Council and spirit in response to Beth’s questions. More and more we are learning from The Council that what’s important about spiritual understanding is that it’s a focus of attention that allows you to feel in your physical experience more of the love you are as a spiritual being.
As you read through the post, see if you can feel the energy of this session resonating with your spirit. If a clear understanding doesn’t come right away, be patient with yourself and let your connection to who you are as a spiritual being shed light on the material presented here. Give yourself some time. You are always welcome to use the Comment section following the post to ask a question about this material and we’ll do our best to reply.
Beth’s Comment and Questions
“I have a question about abortions as it relates to the Soul and the Soul’s agreement…the Soul of the child, specifically.
“You see I have unfortunately had to make the decision (twice) in my life to terminate what I perceived as ‘untimely’ pregnancies.
“I have a lot of guilt around these decisions, not because of any religious reasons, but more because I am not sure what I did was the right decision for my life’s path.
“Also, I often feel sad wondering how those two Souls (or maybe it was the same Soul) feel/felt that I chose to terminate their little lives.
“I fully believe that those Souls made some type of agreement with me, but I’m wondering if you could shed light on what those agreements may have been.
“Did those little Souls know that they would play this role?
“Is it the same Soul trying to come back in?
“Would I be able to find out more about them, and who they might have become had I chosen differently?
“If we come back in similar Soul groups, could this Soul have been one that I also lost in a previous life (I believe I was pregnant when drowned)?
“I realize that these are many questions, not one, but I am grateful for your input.”
–Beth
You Can Not Stop Life
Reading Beth’s comment and questions to The Council at the beginning of the session, they were quick to comment at the end of her first sentence.
“We really want to laugh here… the word abortion… what does it mean?
“Abort… Stop… Stop life?
“You can not stop life.
“It is all in choosing, and agreements, and experiences.
“And so we just wanted to add that in there.
“Beth did not stop a life… did not cut a life short… everything went as planned.”
–The Council
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Why Would Spirit Choose to Be a Human Being Who Experiences Pain?
If you’ve read our Welcome post in the right-hand column of these blog pages, you may remember The Council’s #1 teaching: all human beings are spiritual beings in a physical body. In the 4-5 years The Council’s been speaking to us through Cynthia, this is the idea they have most consistently emphasized.
We mention this in connection to a recent question for The Council from Tanya, who says she’s having the most painful experience of her life because she believes a close personal friend has broken a soul agreement he made with her in spirit.
“Do you realize you have what you believe is a soul contract — we call an agreement, not a contract — with everyone that enters your life?”
I (Bob) mentioned to The Council that Tanya seems particularly interested in a specific soul agreement with one special man who’s been in her life, and how she feels he has broken this soul agreement.
“There is no broken contract or agreement. It is something that was decided between the two of you before you even entered into these bodies. And so when you go through something that is difficult, you believe, ‘uh-oh, something went wrong, this contract is broken.’
“It is exactly the way you wanted it to be, on [the part of] both partners.”
—The Council
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Maria’s Plan for a Great Spiritual Leap
This post is about a question Maria asked after reading a Thought for the Day from The Council titled ‘Everyone In Your Life Was Invited By You‘.
Maria explains her best friend is on his deathbed and she’s experiencing a lot of emotional pain about this. She is asking The Council if it is also with her permission that her friend is exiting her life, because she’s having difficulty understanding why she would agree to ‘loose’ him at this time and in this way.
There is Agreement
“No one comes into your life unless you invite them. Their departing your life is something that they plan along with you, so there is agreement for both of you that when it is time, when you feel you have concluded what you needed to do together, one or both [of you] exit [the physical body].
“And so, although you find this very painful, it has been discussed and planned while you were still in the spirit world.”
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Bob & Cynthia
Welcome to Ask The Council, a blog where you can ask a group of loving and wise spirit guides a question and get an answer, for free. You can also contact us for a paid private phone session with The Council, and you can read the questions other readers have asked and the answers they’ve received. Other posts contain quotations from The Council that we hope you find inspiring, uplifting, and educational.
Ask The Council a Question
If there’s a question you’ve been thinking about and you’re curious how The Council might answer it, we encourage you to either use the blog’s Comments feature to ask your question, or contact us for a private phone session. You can click here to go to the ‘Let us know what you think about this post, or ask The Council a question’ section of this Welcome post and type your question there or you can type your question in the same section at the bottom of any post that inspires you to ask a question or leave a comment.
Since the blog is currently a project we do in our spare time it can take a while for us to do a session with The Council on a question and then publish a post on the session. Depending on the question and the session it can sometimes take weeks after a question is asked to publish a post with The Council’s answer. Please be patient.
The Council
Cynthia is able to communicate with a group of five non-physical spirit guides in a manner similar to the way Esther Hicks communicates with and speaks for the spirit guides, Abraham, and Jane Roberts communicated and spoke for the spirit guide, Seth. I (Bob) basically interview The Council as they speak through Cynthia during what we refer to as a session. Sessions generally last 5-15 minutes and are usually audio recorded. During the session Cynthia is aware of what The Council is saying and she also receives visual impressions and other types of telepathic communication from them.
The Council’s Basic Guidance
Since we began these sessions with The Council around 2009 they consistently emphasize a few basic ideas that we attempt to summarize here:
1) You are an eternal spiritual being in a physical body.
You are the energy and vibration of continuously expanding love, intelligence, and joy.
Your physical experience in your physical body and your psychological experience of your personality is a small part of the totality of who you truly are.
Let yourself imagine from time to time what it might feel like to experience more of the wondrous totality of who you really are, and don’t be surprised if you are able to experience this more often.
2) You are the creator of all that you experience.
As you open to the possibility your true nature is greater than you ordinarily perceive, it becomes easier to consider the possibility that this expanded you is truly the creator of everything that you experience.
If you’re used to thinking of yourself in a more limited sense, the idea that you are the creator of your experience may be difficult to understand. Our post, What About This Idea That We Create Whatever We Desire, offers insights into this idea.
3) You are here to expand the love you are into physical reality.
You chose, as a spiritual being, to come into this physical reality to experience the joy of expanding the love you are as a spiritual being, into this physical reality. This is your purpose for being here.
Finding Your Way Around the Blog
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Clicking on the Comments link takes you to a Comment text box on a post page dedicated to that post. Here you can type a comment in the text box and click the Post Comment button to have your comment displayed just below the text box. If you are replying to someone else’s comment, your comment will appear indented underneath the comment you are replying to.
At the bottom of the left column on the Home page is a ‘Previous Entries’ link that will take you to a page with a list of earlier posts.
Blog Features
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Navigation Bar
The Navigation Bar at the top of each page contains a link to the blog Home page and links to the following additional pages:
Welcome: A link that displays this Welcome message in the left column (and the right column). At the bottom of the Welcome message is a Comment box where you can post a general comment about the blog or ask The Council a question.
Questions & Answers: Use this link to display a list of introductions to our longer posts, most of which are responses to reader questions. This is an easy way to check out these more in-depth posts. They are listed in chronological order with the most recent post on top. Clicking on the post title will take you to the page where you can read the complete post.
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